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Synthetic Pre-pretraining Survives Scale, but Not as a Grammatical Prior

Pre-pretraining (PPT) on synthetic non-natural language data improves token efficiency during language model pre-training (PT). However, the study shows that the effectiveness of PPT at larger scales and with diverse data mixtures does not rely on a grammatical prior but on tasks that enhance long-range retrieval. PPT remains beneficial even with up to 100B PT tokens and is robust to data composition as long as web text is included.

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PublishedSeptember 30, 2026Atsuki Yamaguchi, Tatsuro Inaba, Joel Niklaus
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This research provides insights into the effectiveness of synthetic pre-pretraining at scale, indicating that its benefits stem from long-range retrieval tasks rather than a grammatical prior, which could guide future PPT task design.

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